ACLU to Sue the CIA

Posted on December 2, 2005

Hat tip: SondraK
The ACLU is up to their anti-US, anti-defense, anti-security litigation again. This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man.

A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA to court to stop the transportation of terror suspects to countries outside US legal authority.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) says the intelligence agency has broken both US and international law.

It is acting for a man allegedly flown to a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says she’ll comment on recent reports of alleged CIA prisons abroad before starting a visit to Europe on Monday.

Ms Rice has said she will provide an answer to a EU letter expressing concern over reports last month alleging the US intelligence agency was using secret jails - particularly in eastern Europe.

‘Extraordinary rendition’

“The lawsuit will charge that CIA officials at the highest level violated US and universal human rights laws when they authorised agents to abduct an innocent man, detain him in incommunicado, beat him, drug and transport him to a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan,” the ACLU said in a news release. SOURCE

First off, I don’t know how the ACLU got details of this particular man’s case, and I’m not advocating torture if it happened, however, that’s not what they’re arguing. They are instead fighting the use of secret prisons across the globe. What if the ACLU had tried this in WW2? In World War Two, we had prisons camps across the country, and in some cases overseas, and they were secret. It’s a necessary action, not only for our safety, but for the safety of the prisoners. If we release the location, terrorists and enemies could attempt to assault it, or, angry Americans could attempt an attack. In the wake of 9/11, there was an extraordinary amount of anger, and I could easily imagine groups of disgruntled Americans attacking holding camps of Al-Qaeda members.

So what’s the ACLU’s argument? It’s not about torture, but rather about the fact that they are having a hard time defending the terrorists because they cannot locate them or communicate with them. The ACLU refused funds from groups that said their money can’t be used to defend terrorism. That’s what this is about. The CIA is doing this for the safety of our troops, the safety of the average American, and even the safety of the prisoners. The ACLU wants to assault that safety.

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30 Responses to “ACLU to Sue the CIA”

  1. Real Teen- Right on the Right » Blog Archive » ACLU to Sue the CIA on December 2nd, 2005 11:51 pm

    [...] Cross-posted from Stop the ACLU (by me): The ACLU is up to their anti-US, anti-defense, anti-security litigation again. This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man. A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA to court to stop the transportation of terror suspects to countries outside US legal authority. [...]

  2. Kevin Mark Smith on December 2nd, 2005 11:56 pm

    It’s a good thing that the Courts ultimately lack the power to make the military do anything, especially when the so-called civil rights violations occur in Cuba or some other foreign nation. Bush should flip ‘em the bird and do what it takes to protect Americans. Period.

  3. Riehl World View on December 3rd, 2005 12:18 am

    ACLU To The Rescue
    of terrorists and non-combatants, of course.A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA to court to stop the transportation of terror suspects to countries outside US legal authority. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) says the intelligence

  4. Conservative Thinking on December 3rd, 2005 12:36 am

    ACLU to Sue CIA
    The ACLU is up to their anti-US, anti-defense, anti-security litigation again. This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man. A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA…

  5. The Museum of Left Wing Lunacy on December 3rd, 2005 12:39 am

    ACLU To Sue CIA
    The ACLU is up to their anti-US, anti-defense, anti-security litigation again. This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man. A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA…

  6. Clayton Hallmark on December 3rd, 2005 1:21 am

    http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=28832
    I wrote the above article in which I intended to provide the legal ammunition someone like the ACLU could take and run with. Here, specifically is what I would like to know (there is more in the article).

    The lawyers representing the CIA companies are private lawyers and possibly can be sued, and possibly subjected to discipline by local bar associations, for their participation with the CIA.

    Also, there are specific private contractors that can be sued, including Aero Contractors, which provides the pilots for the torture flights, and others shown at http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/GDoole01/ea04ffaa.jpg
    —————
    CIA-AIRPLANE SHELL COMPANIES Have ONE Employee: A LAWYER

    AVIATION SPECIALTIES INC.
    PO BOX 9891
    FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS STATION POST OFFICE
    4005 WISCONSIN AVE, NW
    WASHINGTON, DC 20016 US
    (District of Columbia County)
    Most Co. planes registered to above.
    Additional Address:
    10601 BALTIMORE AVE
    SUITE 300 (3RD FLOOR)
    BELTSVILLE, MD 20705
    (Prince George’s County)
    Raytheon (Beech) B200C, S/N BB-1823 registered to above.
    LAWYER: DOUGLAS R. THOMAS
    Same Office: Leslie Silverman, Gregory R. Caruso
    Thomas lent his address for the one plane, didn’t
    register Co. with state (MD), was disbarred in 2000.
    He also lent his address for RAPID, below.

    BAYARD FOREIGN MARKETING, LLC
    755 PITTOCK BLOCK
    921 SW WASHINGTON ST
    PORTLAND, OR 97205 US
    (Multnomah County)
    LAWYER: SCOTT D. CAPLAN (same address)
    Law Partners: John C. Etter, Michael R Jordan

    CROWELL AVIATION TECHNOLOGIES, INC
    339 WASHINGTON ST STE 202
    DEDHAM, MA 02026 US
    (Norfolk County)
    LAWYER: DEAN PLAKIAS (same address)
    of Hill & Plakias (practice: family law)

    DEVON HOLDING & LEASING, INC.
    129 WEST CENTER STREET # 2
    LEXINGTON, NC 27292-3009
    (Davidson County)
    LAWYER: Mark E. Klass
    Klass is now a judge. He incorporated STEVENS (below).
    Davidson County Hall of Justice, 110 W. Center St.,
    P.O. Box 1064 Lexington, NC 27293-1064
    (336) 249-0351
    Now at 129 W Center St. is attorney Carroll C. Wall.

    KEELER AND TATE MANAGEMENT, LLC
    KEELER AND TATE MANAGEMENT, LLC
    245 E LIBERTY ST STE 510
    RENO, NV 89501 US
    (Washoe County)
    LAWYER: STEVEN F. PETERSEN (same address), political PR
    SAME OFFICE: Paul D. Laxalt (ex-US Senator), Peter D. Laxalt,
    Frank R. Petersen

    PATH CORPORATION
    413 REHOBOTH AVE PO BOX 305
    REHOBOTH BEACH, DE 19971 US
    (Sussex County)
    LAWYER: Barbara-Cherrix O’Leary (same address),
    real estate law

    PREMIER EXECUTIVE TRANSPORT SERVICES, INC.
    (Same address, same lawyer as CROWELL above.)
    339 WASHINGTON ST STE 202
    DEDHAM, MA 02026 US
    (Norfolk County)
    LAWYER: DEAN PLAKIAS (same address)
    of Hill & Plakias (practice: family law)

    RAPID AIR TRANS INC
    RAPID AIR TRANSPORT INC
    10601 BALTIMORE AVE
    SUITE 300 (3RD FLOOR)
    BELTSVILLE, MD 20705 US
    (Prince George’s County)
    LAWYER: DOUGLAS R. THOMAS, bankruptcy lawyer
    Same Office: Leslie Silverman, Gregory R. Caruso
    Thomas lent his address for Rapid “Trans” and “Transport”
    as well as AVIATION SPECIALTIES (above).
    Thomas registered “Trans” with the state for a time,
    “Transport” not at all. He was disbarred in 2000.

    STEVENS EXPRESS LEASING INC
    8130 COUNTRY VILLAGE DR STE 101
    CORDOVA, TN 38016 US
    (Shelby County)
    LAWYER: DOUGLAS R. BEATY (Same address),
    real estate lawyer
    Company was incorporated by Mark E. Klass
    (see DEVON), now a judge in Lexington, NC.

  7. loboinok on December 3rd, 2005 3:07 am

    Clayton Hallmark…

    Phew! Sure would like to have the money you have spent in tin foil!

  8. Dethanial on December 3rd, 2005 1:46 pm

    The ACLU is getting more looney every day. Of course the CIA does things in secret. That is how they get their info. Why dont the CIA come to my hometown and make a snowball from the snow last night and then go visit the devil.

  9. California Conservative on December 3rd, 2005 1:56 pm

    ACLU To Sue CIA
    The ACLU is up to their anti-US, anti-defense, anti-security litigation again. This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man.
    A US civil rights groups says it is taking the CIA to court to stop …

  10. Daily Intel Briefing - Kilo Echo 4 on December 3rd, 2005 4:00 pm

    A.C.L.U. To Sue CIA Over “Secret Prisons”
    The program of the A.C.L.U. since its inception has always been to establish communism in the United States.

  11. John Wilson on December 3rd, 2005 4:55 pm

    The ACLU has fought the rights of Pat Roberston and would be defending your [edited] if the Feds were trying to put right wing-nuts out of business.

    You’d better support them - or you may be those taking the heat next.

  12. leaf on December 3rd, 2005 6:23 pm

    “…they are having a hard time defending the terrorists…”

    Really? Is that what the ACLU said? I think that the ACLU and you and I don’t know who is being held in these secret sites because they are SECRET SITES. So why do you call the detainees terrorists? See if you can find a list of who is being held at Gitmo. I’d love to see the link to that if you can find it for me.

    ‘This time they are suing the CIA based on “secret prisons” and the allegations of one man.’

    Has the Bush administration or the CIA denied the existence of the secret prisions?

  13. A Rose By Any Other Name on December 3rd, 2005 6:37 pm

    CIA Being Sued By The ACLU
    I’m not overly fond of the CIA and the fishy smell of Wilson, Plame, and Goss’s garbage, as well as the “inexplicable” and numerous leaks, but even the ACLU has gone too far when they sue the CIA.

  14. Dethanial on December 3rd, 2005 8:22 pm

    Who cares if the ACLU has helped
    Pat Roberson, they would not file a lawsuit in my behalf because I would not let them instead I would to to the ACLJ for someone who deserves the money much more than an athiest organization.

  15. loboinok on December 4th, 2005 12:24 am

    “You’d better support them - or you may be those taking the heat next.”

    Thats the beauty of it John… the government trained me in protecting your rights,I trained others to do the same, so I am quite capable of defending my own!

    Merry Christmas!

  16. brad on December 4th, 2005 10:43 am

    I think the ACLU argument is more along the lines of “the slippery slope.” Allowing illegal things o happen opens up the door for more illegal things to happen.

    People use this argument for legalizing hemp. I think it is you right wing guys that make that argument. If you guys want to be correct then see both in the same light. The argument is the same. Hypocritical and another instance of selectively choosing limited information to boost a perspective.

    lol, the argument that right wingers hate the aclu until they come to save your [edited]! lol. I can’t wait until this whole terrorist thing goes to the extent of McCarthyism. Ah, the errors of logical deduction!

  17. The Uncooperative Blogger on December 4th, 2005 11:17 am

    ACLU Is taking the CIA to Court
    They are at it again! I previously reported that the Washington Post broke a story about the U.S. using “secret” CIA prisons, and how this upset the EU. Well, now the ACLU is taking the CIA to court! I want to know where the investigation …

  18. AJB on December 4th, 2005 3:30 pm

    Damn the ACLU!

    How are we supposed to kidnap and torture innocent people if they keep interfering?

  19. The Wide Awakes » ACLU to Sue CIA on December 4th, 2005 6:44 pm

    [...] Crossposted from Stop The ACLU [...]

  20. actus on December 4th, 2005 8:31 pm

    “First off, I don’t know how the ACLU got details of this particular man’s case,”

    They probably talked to the guy. Do you know anything at all about what is going on here?

    “What if the ACLU had tried this in WW2? In World War Two, we had prisons camps across the country, and in some cases overseas, and they were secret.”

    POW’s were not held in secret. Again, do you know what you’re talking about?

  21. Right Wing Nut House on December 6th, 2005 7:40 am

    CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #24
    Captain Renault: Major Strasser has been shot. Round up the usual suspects. (Casablanca, 1942)

    We have plenty of the “usual suspects” in this, the 24th edition of the Carnival of the Clueless. Hall of Famers Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and…

  22. Fred Fry International on December 6th, 2005 10:46 pm

    Why the US holds detainees outside the US
    Housing prisoners of war in the US is nothing new, so why aren?t we housing prisoners of war from Afghanistan and Iraq in the US? Here are a couple of likely reasons why.

  23. File it Under on December 14th, 2005 9:23 am

    Carnival of Crazy XII - The 12 Days of Crazy
    “Awesome title, Hood.”

    “Yes, I know.”

    Did you know that talking to yourself may be a symptom of crazy? I sure hope not and neither do I!

    Welcome to the Carnival of Crazy XII. This will be the last CofC until the new year due to an extended…

  24. Gigi on December 29th, 2005 2:53 pm

    ACLU are a bunch of lossers. They were not able to depend NY on 9/11. They are really lossing it. LOSSSERRRSSSSSSSSSSS

  25. The Real Ugly American.com » Blog Archive » ACLU Renews Hatred For America on February 16th, 2006 10:36 am

    [...] If this were the only government effort to protect Americans that the ACLU opposed, one could easily write it off as a misguided pursuit of an absolutist ideaology of liberty. However, the ACLU seems to have a problem with everything dealing with National Security. They oppose the Patritot Act, airline security measures, searches across the board, and much more. [...]

  26. The Right Track » ACLU Renews Hatred For America on February 16th, 2006 2:11 pm

    [...] If this were the only government effort to protect Americans that the ACLU opposed, one could easily write it off as a misguided pursuit of an absolutist ideaology of liberty. However, the ACLU seems to have a problem with everything dealing with National Security. They oppose the Patritot Act, airline security measures, searches across the board, and much more. [...]

  27. Moderate Conservative » Stop the ACLU Part 1 on February 17th, 2006 2:40 am

    [...] If this were the only government effort to protect Americans that the ACLU opposed, one could easily write it off as a misguided pursuit of an absolutist ideaology of liberty. However, the ACLU seems to have a problem with everything dealing with National Security. They oppose the Patritot Act, airline security measures, searches across the board, and much more. [...]

  28. Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » Blog Archive » Should The ACLU Be The Subject Of A Congressional Investigation? on February 18th, 2006 2:40 am

    [...] They have vigorously fought to defeat random searches in subways, but NOT spying on their own members. [...]

  29. Stop The ACLU » Blog Archive » CALLING FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE THE ACLU on February 18th, 2006 1:16 pm

    [...] They fighting every government effort at National Defense such as the NSA Surveillance program, TSA Security measures, Subway searches, and the Patriot Act. [...]

  30. Blue Star Chronicles » Blog Archive » The ACLU vs. National Security on March 5th, 2006 4:10 am

    [...] If this were the only government effort to protect Americans that the ACLU opposed, one could easily write it off as a misguided pursuit of an absolutist ideaology of liberty. However, the ACLU seems to have a problem with everything dealing with National Security. They oppose the Patritot Act, airline security measures, searches across the board, and much more. [...]