Congressmen back Scouts in ACLU suit
Posted on November 9, 2005
Via Worldnet Daily
Ninety members of Congress filed a brief yesterday with a federal appeals court declaring support for the U.S. Defense Department in its sponsorship of the Boy Scouts of America’s national jamboree.
The department’s backing of the quadrennial event, attended this year by more than 40,000 Scouts, was opposed in a 1999 lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.
The ACLU contends federal government sponsorship violates the First Amendment, because the Boy Scouts require members to swear an oath to “do my duty to God and my country.”
The next jamboree is scheduled for 2010 to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America.
Represented by the American Center for Law and Justice, the lawmakers’ friend-of-the-court brief to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit seeks a reversal of a lower court decision that declared the Defense Department’s sponsorship unconstitutional.
The 1972 statute passed by Congress, the lower court declared, violates the so-called “separation of church and state.”
Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the ACLJ, says the lower court simply “got it wrong.”
“The military provides the Boy Scouts with support and services that aid both the military and the Scouts without endorsing religion,” he said.
The ACLJ contends the purpose of the bill passed by Congress was to advance the military’s goals, not advance the Boy Scouts’ religious beliefs.
The brief asserts the Defense Department’s support comes in the form of “non-religious supplies and services.”
“The military’s rental of forklifts and trucks, transportation and military equipment, restoration of Fort A.P. Hill after the Jamboree, and provision of other secular services is clearly ‘neutral and nonideological,’” the brief said. “The only possible message that the military’s aid can be viewed as conveying is that patriotism, self-reliance, physical fitness and support of the military are positive things.”
While this is a positive development in favor of the Boyscouts, the ACLU are relentless in their war against them. How this started was over the Boyscouts exclusion of gays. The ACLU, supposedly the defender of free speech, went after the Boyscouts for this exclusion and lost. So now the ACLU are out to destroy the organization by attacking any public sponsorship over their oath which includes “duty to God and Country.” So the support of Congress in this matter means a lot, but it isn’t the end of this war. The ACLU have all kinds of ways to hurt the Boyscouts. There favored method is threat.
Threats of litigation by the American Civil Liberties Union is causing trouble for some Boy Scouts in St. Charles County.
Last year the ACLU complained the Boy Scouts were a religious group, because members were compelled to swear an oath of duty to God. When the ACLU began winning court cases, several sponsors pulled out.
Cub Scout Pack 530 was sponsored by Castlio Elementary School in St. Charles County for 20 years until the school pulled out after the ACLU’S nationwide threat to sue. Some parents are upset because the parent-teacher organization at Castlio decided not to sponsor the pack, after being requested to do so.
When a new PTO Board was seated this year, members talked with an attorney and decided the organization was at risk legally by sponsoring the Scouts. “The ACLU has left the door open for litigation in this matter,” says Castlio PTO President Mary Johnson.Source
And so the war against the Boy Scouts continues. One step forward, one step back. One thing is for sure, neither of these groups are giving an inch. It will be an ugly fight for a while. Its good to know that Congress is doing what it can. Do what you can. Click Here To See How You Can Help.
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GOD Bless America!!! I am a proud Scouter and support my fellow Scouters and Scouts.
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[...] #8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them. [...]
[...] #8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them. [...]
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[...] #8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them. [...]
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Why I don’t like the ACLU
Because of how they target the Boy Scouts of America, and how fear of lawsuits spurs BSA sponsors stop those sponsorships:
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Boy Scouts and Gay’s….Gay’s were always here since the time of man and there is not one case which can be proven that gay’s in the Boy Scouts as compare to say the the Cathoic Church. ( Its all in yout head)
There is a word of hate is moving in and out your circle of going to the extreme….As a member of ACLUI…extremist…. look in the mirror Mr. Right Wing We take less than 6 % of the global population and 27% of the Global Jailed Population and there are more prisoner’s in American jail than China & Russia combined.
Where’s the crongress man now? as a matter of fact i met a man who was in jail for making a verbal threat to his girlfriend and was arrested 4 years later on a cold case.
I ask here Where is she now?…answer i haven’t seen her in 3 yrs…..Maybe you should join us as we fight the extremist to the right….They are all in front of you….Just look in the Mirror.
Wolfchief.
P.S. Have a nice day!
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The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly… My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment…Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself…I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.” 9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment. ACLU POLICY “The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court’s long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual’s right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. 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[...] 8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them. [...]
All y’all are PARANOID.
The ACLU is not fighting a “war” against the Boy Scouts.
The ACLU is just against the Boy Scouts using public property for private purposes.
You all need to take your meds.
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