Subway Searches Go To Court
Posted on October 31, 2005
Hat tip: Law Hawk
October 31, 2005 — The city must defend its subway-terror prevention program today in court, where lawyers will challenge the constitutionality of cops randomly searching passengers at platform entrances.
Five city residents, represented by the New York Civil Liberties Union, claim their right to privacy was violated by the program.The NYCLU calls the program ineffective because cops check too few subway entrances and riders can refuse the searches and leave the subway system.
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City lawyers have noted that an al-Qaida training manual advising terrorists to avoid police checkpoints gives the city some justification for its random searches of bags entering the subway system.
Michael Cardozo of the city’s law office says he’s confident when the judge hears the evidence, he will find that the bag searches are perfectly constitutional and designed to protect the safety of all New Yorkers and visitors.
There is no satisfying the ACLU on this issue. They pretend to be concerned over privacy , calling the searches unreasonable. They are in fact very reasonable in protecting life, in today’s threatening environment of terror. I say they pretend to be concerned over privacy because they have shown they are against all searches of any kind. Here they are against random searches, in their lawsuit against the Tampa Bay Bucs they were against complete searches, and we all know they would be against profiled searches. It really seems to many of us that the ACLU are not concerned for American’s safety at all.
Hopefully common sense will guide the ruling in this case. I hope political correctness does not kill common sense this time around. It does so too often. The ACLU are clueless on this one. How about people’s right to live?
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If it made me late for my train, I’d be pissed, but all in all, good policy, they could, afterall, make everyone walk through a metal detector like at the airport.
I’m perfectly willing to give in to small inconveniences if it means that I’m not going to be blown up by some Muslim terrorist on his way to the ACLU Hall of Fame. As for any liberal that might associate themselves with the ACLU, some free advice: To win elections, and the hearts of Americans, you must protect them. Stay away from the ACLU and we might take you seriously.
“City lawyers have noted that an al-Qaida training manual advising terrorists to avoid police checkpoints gives the city some justification for its random searches of bags entering the subway system.”
How does this square with the fact that you can just turn around and refuse the search?
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A trial began in New York yesterday, wherein the New York Civil Liberties Union is trying to put an end to police inspections of bags and packages at subway entrances.
I’m wondering why this suit is deemed as having merit at all. Any search will be thought of a “unreasonable” by some. Public sentiment aside, NYC has to pay the costs of doing the searches, as well as being liable to anyone injured in a terrorist attack on the subway. The responsibility lies with the city to determine security levels and policies, not with a group of anti-American lawyers and sympathetic jurists!
“Public sentiment aside, NYC has to pay the costs of doing the searches, as well as being liable to anyone injured in a terrorist attack on the subway.”
are they really liable?
[...] …the ACLU is continuing their efforts to help al-Qa’eda blow up the subway. Posted by Emperor Darth Misha I @ 5:54 pm | [...]
[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]
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[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]
[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]
[...] 11/10/2005 6:06 pm  -  Posted by Jay777 Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU Stop The ACLU was started on February 9th, 2004. We started with high hopes, and we realized we were facing a goliath. There were many reasons why we thought the ACLU needed to be countered, and they are numerous. We wanted to provide a way to inform the public of the ACLU’s agenda, as the MSM sugar coated it. We wanted to be a central database for people to gather, exchange ideas, and get actively involved in real ways of stopping them. It is a monumental task, exhausting, time consuming, and often frustrating. But it is a fight worth fighting. We would be nothing without our supporters. To all of you, we appreciate the continued support. We have called you to action and you have answered. We raised $2,500.00 for an ad in the Washington Times, and I want to announce at this time that the check is in the mail as of Wednessday, Nov 8th. The ad should appear within the next two weeks. 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Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.”ACLU Policy #47 #8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them. #7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it’s the ACLU’s top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to the ACLU’s pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case they are against death. #6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech, protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have helped illegals cross the border. #5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the guise of “seperation of Church and State”, the ACLU have made a name for theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be there to secularize America, and rewrite our history. #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. #3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980’s. And they continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism. In October of 2004, the ACLU turned down $1.15 million in funding from two of it’s most generous and loyal contributors, the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, saying new anti-terrorism restrictions demanded by the institutions make it unable to accept their funds. “The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that “promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.” The Rockefeller Foundation’s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not “directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.” #2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like NAMBLA. As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S. Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be. There is no doubt the The ACLU are perverting the Constitution. #1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on this one? There are countless reasons the ACLU needs to be stopped. So don’t just stand by and complain, do something. Get involved. Here are some ways you can get involved to help us stop the ACLU. Support and donate to organizations fighting them in Court. Here are the ones at the forefront. ACLJ Alliance Defense Fund Thomas More Law Center Join the Stop The ACLU Coalition Help us write Churches to get involved. Tell your Congress to support the Public Expression of Relgion Act of 2005. This legislation seeks to limit attorney’s fees in Establishment Clause cases to injunctive relief only. SIGN THE PETITION TO STOP TAXPAYER FUNDING OF THE ACLU Crossposted from Stop The ACLU This was a production of Stop The ACLU Blogburst. 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[...] 4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach. [...]
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[...] City lawyers have noted that an al-Qaida training manual advising terrorists to avoid police checkpoints gives the city some justification for its random searches of bags entering the subway system. [...]
[...] Of course we don’t know for certain who the next hijacker will be, but we have enough evidence to suggest that the odds are greater that it will be committed by a person of Middle Eastern descent. As Jo states; City lawyers have noted that an al-Qaida training manual advising terrorists to avoid police checkpoints gives the city some justification for its random searches of bags entering the subway system. [...]
I’m against any and all searches no matter at the airport, at a government DUI checkpoint, in a government school, a subway or a bus. Next thing you know, they will be able to pull random people off the sidewalk for searches or even come into our homes without a warrant. That’s all these zealots need is more power over our lives. The Bill of Rights includes the Fourth Amendment for a reason. Terrorism and the War on Drugs are just excuses used by the authoritarians to strip away our precious rights.